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Classic Rides

Post by Spencerman » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:21 am

I was watching a POV of the Pheonix at Knoebels and saw this. Do you know why older wooden coasters have a wierd structure at the top of the lift? And that they have a tunnel before the lift? It's a little strange/cool.
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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Paul Drabek » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:28 am

I assume you're meaning this?

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For some of the coasters the weird structure at the top of the lift hill is just for aesthetic looks while some might be to cover up the mechanisms at the top of the lift for the chain to kind of keep them out of the elements. Now about the tunnels before the lift those are to disorient the riders. Herb Schmeck, Prior and Church and even John Miller used those a bunch to disorient the riders. Good coaster design is very much a psychological game to work out the most exciting and frightening ride and a great way to kick that off is to get people all turned around and not sure where they are or what's happening like you can do with a tunnel.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Spencerman » Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:37 am

Oohhhhhh! I kind of figured about the sculpture thing, but the tunnel makes sense now! Wow, that is some clever thinking on the designers' parts. :) I always wondered, "Why have a tunnel when it doesn't get dark?" But that's cool!

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Paul Drabek » Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:45 pm

The one at Knoebels does get dark and it has several turns in it so it can really disorient you.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by CoasterDemon » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:04 pm

And this one on top of Blue Streak:

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I think it was called the 'decorative cupola' at the top of the lift. If you notice, there are 2 little red lights up there. Every night at 7pm we had to walk out to the lift house and flick that "airplane light" on. How charming is that!? A 78 foot high coaster in a park that has (or had, back then) many other MUCH taller rides. But when it was built in 1964, it was the tallest ride - so they needed the airplane light. I really liked that they kept it. Added a touch more *charm* to the rides operation back then.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Spencerman » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:23 pm

:lol: And now there is a coaster that's a bout 4 times taller! That is awesome! And yeah, I saw that, Paul. But some modern coasters have tunnels that are bright-ish. Or at least in the vids I've seen.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Sora » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:11 pm

Don't forget the Venice Pier Bobs by Fred Church. The train was in a tunnel from the moment it left the station until the bottom of the first drop. Yep, even the lift was enclosed!

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Oh, and then there were the Twister coasters built by PTC, where the entire ride was enclosed in a tunnel. :)

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by CoasterDemon » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:45 pm

^I look at that picture and it's like heaven! All those great looking coasters all over the place. And you know they had to be great fun classic rides... I bet some of those didn't even have locking lap bars. I appreciate classic seating and freedom on rides!

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Paul Drabek » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:37 pm

Oh yeah I forgot about the Venice Bobs. Although my fav classic with a Pre drop tunnel was the Rocky Springs Wildcat whose tunnel had several twists, dips and banked sections all to really disorient you.

Wasn't the PTC Twister that was totally enclosed at Cincinnati's Coney Island?

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Spencerman » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:01 am

I would love to ride a completely enclosed coaster! (Besides the Underground at Adventureland.) It would be so fun and exhilerating!

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Sora » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:23 am

Paul Drabek wrote:Wasn't the PTC Twister that was totally enclosed at Cincinnati's Coney Island?

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Yes it was. Lakemont had a Twister coaster too, but it wasn't fully enclosed.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Paul Drabek » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:57 pm

What's interesting is Lakemont got rid of their Twister yet still kept the way out dated Leap The Dips. Honestly it's a miracle that ride is still with us.

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Re: Old Coasters

Post by Spencerman » Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:10 pm

Thank the heavens though! I like the look of side friction coasters! AND that is also the oldest operating, which I find neat. :D

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Re: Classic Rides

Post by Spencerman » Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:37 pm

Have you guys been on a Rock O Plane? I went to Arnold's Park this year and rode it many times! It was AMAZING, but at times a little uncomfortable. It would be cool if a company, like Chance Morgan, would remake it with easier controls and more comfortable restraints. (Let's hope a commpany is reading this! :) ) Actually, are Rock O Planes or Roll O Planes still being made?

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Re: Classic Rides

Post by Waterboy » Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:22 pm

CoasterDemon, I don't know you worked at CP in the past. What years were you there? WB
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